My new old toy

Since my first proper taste of owning a vintage sewing machine* I’ve been keen to get a few more to tinker with. There are a couple of specific models I am looking for so I keep my eye online for when one pops up in my area that I can hopefully afford.

Singer 201K-3

Buying an old sewing machine off of TradeMe (the NZ equivalent of eBay) can be a bit of a gamble. The machines that sell cheaply (i.e. within my budget) often only sell low due to the seller having no clue about the machine at all. Either there is a very short description,  no machine name or code, suspect suggestions that it may work, or the worst photos in the world…sometimes all of the above.

I’ll give you an example: I spotted a cute little vintage machine for sale, the description by the seller was very short (“I think it goes?”) and they only uploaded two photos, both of which were of the back of the machine tightly wrapped in it’s cords and hiding most of the identifying markings. My interest was piqued however as it was a different looking beast from the usual vintage (i.e. often not “vintage” at all) machines that go up for such low prices. I was about to ask the seller for a front facing photo when I noticed someone else already had, “Can you please upload a photo of the front of this machine?” to which the seller had replied, “Sure, what is the front?”


The comment response was, “You pick it up and TURN IT AROUND”…Needless to say they never uploaded the photo and I let it go to someone else.

While trawling TradeMe on a bad TV night last week I spotted this groovy looking Singer 328P Style-O-Matic for $30, closing in 1 hour and, even though this model is not one of the ones I crave, for some reason I wanted her. So I threw on a bid with 5 minutes to spare and won with no competition. I think you will agree, for $30, from an obvious non-sewer, “it appears to function” (I am guessing they wiggled the handwheel a bit), this is what I mean by “a bit of gamble”!

On enquiry about pick up and payment I was instructed to leave the money in the letter box and the machine would be at the top of the stairs. The seller clearly had no desire for any face-to-face interaction. Later, after a different day was decided upon, she told me she would leave it in the back of the station wagon at the bottom of her driveway. I felt like I was going to a dead drop and I wondered what would happen if I showed up and it was stolen…in the end I showed up later than expected and the seller must have had to go out, for there was no station wagon to be seen. Instead I found the machine hidden under a tarp in the driveway with a handy and hastily made cardboard sign reading “sewing machine” on top!

Anyway, it certainly looked ok, so I left the cash and hefted it into my car.

When I got it home the first thing I did was give it a good clean – and then I explored the little cardboard box that came with it:

The advert stated “No extra feet” but I count three here (zipper, button & hemming), plus 6 “fashion discs” (one in the machine, I call them cams) and six bobbins. They also said the clips on the case were broken but they are not. With this much luck already I was doubting the machine would actually sew!

So I plugged her in and was rewarded with a glowing light bulb. I have never threaded a vintage machine before so I consulted the handily included instruction booklet and set to work. Winding the bobbin went smoothly enough and then I began to thread.

I put the bobbin in first, top loading, another first of me, but it went in ok. The bobbin assembly was a bit wobbly and it looked like the tension screw was mostly undone…a sign someone had been fiddling with it? I’d come back to that after I tested the rest…

When I got to the needle thread tension dual I was a bit confused about where to run the thread, the diagram is very general, turning the tension knob felt…not right…and there also didn’t seem to be any markings relating to the tension numbers.

Are you kidding me? There are three discs behind that knob to choose from!

Sigh! So I consulted the older 201 and sure enough there was a -|+ marking above the tension numbers. A closer look at 328 and I found the -|+ marking upside down, someone had definitely been fiddling…not a good sign…so, with nothing to lose (really) and secure in the knowledge that after I stuff it up completely the Internet would tell me how to make it right again, I promptly disassembled it.

Then I started the reassemble, not that tricky really, I used the 201 as a guide, they are very similar.

So I didn’t need the Internet in the end, I worked it out by myself which is much more satisfying isn’t it?

Another squinty look at the threading instructions and I worked that bit out too…A new needle and she was ready to go!


We started on a zig-zag stitch since I didn’t check the stitch width setting first…not bad…from the front…

…oh but the back! Oh dear! Sad Kiwi!

I might have panicked just a little bit. After some thinking I revisited the bobbin case and, following the instruction book, I tightened up that screw, testing and tightening some more until…


Then it was time to play with the cams:

I stitched up a little swatch for future reference:

She can do a lot of modern sewing functions that I didn’t expect too: Button holes, left-centre-right needle position, and she can even run two needles!

Phew! A gamble that paid off. This little retro cutie is hard-working and very tough, she is a bit different to all the black curvy Singers out there and has her own distinct personality. I’m glad I took the risk and picked her up.

I can easily see myself building a small collection of vintage machines, I’d love to learn more about how they work and a tiny bit of restoration. I have always enjoyed pulling things apart and learning how they work, which is a good thing, because I’m going to impose a fairly strict rule on myself, that they must function, or at least be DIY repairable, and I really shouldn’t buy a new one until I get the last one going, or at least the correct parts on order.

The Internet did come in handy for teaching me that the Singer 328P was produced out of the Penrith factory in NSW, Australia, that is what the P denotes. They began production in 1959 assembling 201P machines and later added the 227P and the 328P to the line. The grey plastic base was made locally and is specific to the Australian (and therefore NZ) market.

I was hoping for a more specific manufacture date but when I finally located the serial number the Singer website merely gave me a bracket of 10 years, 1957 – 1967. ISMACS suggested a smaller range for the K (Kilbowie factory) model of 1963-1965…hmmm…I know it was after 1959 and my serial number is early VA series so I could guess it could be around 1963 as well…Who knows?!

For future reference, if you are struggling to find the serial number on a 328 or similar, here is where I found mine, you can’t even see it in the picture, but trust me, it’s there:

So, there she is, my new old toy.

I’ve given here a nick name already too, The Tractor, said with absolute affection, here is why**:

Mechanic Husband commented that “it sounds like she has a diesel knock!”

*FYI I have a replacement belt on order and Electronic Husband booked in for re-wiring the plug 😉

**I was still playing with the tensions when I made this video, that’s why it looks like I am pulling on the fabric, because I am! Also, she does sew at a constant speed, not in this video because a short cord meant I have the foot pedal up on the table and I was driving it with my right hand, which is tricky.

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28 thoughts on “My new old toy

  1. I was delighted to find your post in a quick google of the 328P model number. I’ve just received one from my Uncles estate (I imagine it origianally belonged to my Grandmother) and was very curious about it’s age and where it was made. Thank you for answering all my immediate questions here. By the way – mine sews beautifully! And Noisy 🙂

  2. Hi! Thank-you for your pic as to “where” the serial # might be…. I have now found my 227P’s serial #. I’m about to list it for sale as no longer have storage for a “UFO” that I’m never going to get around to…. 🙂

  3. Hi there, I found your blog post after a google search seeking assistance for the 328P I’ve just picked up today from It’s in a very sad state as there’s plenty of rust and the needle arm doesn’t move at all, but the light comes on and the motor sounds good. Any website recommendations on how to fixit up would be great if you have them. I’ve cracked open the bottom but I need some guidance on what to do next. I’ll be following your pics for cleaning the tension discs! Thanks in advance. Elle

    • Though technically not a slant there is A vintage slant sewing machine group on Facebook that has lots of folks and files on repairs. The machines are very similar though. Maybe you could join that group?

  4. hi thanks for all this info i do have a few questions like thread tension knob where did you end up laying the thread? also at what number is the tension set to i am 100% new to all this i picked up a 328k i think my daughter changed the settings because when i bought it it worked fine when i brought it home it worked fine but a few days later the thread was not ready it was pulled out completely ( aka my baby girls work ) lol and since then i have had almost zero luck getting it to sew the same.. also i saw some where that the 328 can also do 2 needles how true and easy is this do i need an attachment piece?? thank you again for reading my long question ….

    • Hi Jay – I’m sorry you comment was stuck in my moderation box for a while and I didn’t see it. I stitched with the tension knob at about 4 but you need to increase or decrease this depending on your fabrics weight. If your machine it threaded up correctly and still not stitching right it might need a service and a clean.
      I believe they do run a twin needle without any special attachment. You thread the first needle up, then the second, running the thread through the second needle and using the guide on that side. I hope that helps 🙂

  5. *waves* Hi!,
    I was happy to see that you have a 328! Mine has the K designation so it was made in Scotland. It’s quite the world traveler lol because i’m in the US. My little machine also sounds really loud and for what ever reason it tends to give me a headache when I used it for more than a few hours. LOL Thanks for the pics It’s good to know that I did fix the tension assembly correctly.

  6. Thanks so much for posting this, I bought a 328p today for $10! And mine also needs a clean, but it’s cord is undamaged, the bulb came on and it sews! I haven’t done much else than test that but tomorrow I’ll re-read your post, click the links and get to work on making her sew again. Thanks!

  7. Thank you so much for your 328P story. I picked up one in the opshop the other day but couldn’t find the serial number. I know the ‘birthdays’ of all my other singers so it was driving me nuts I couldn’t find any serial number. The US-based singer boards had no idea either.

  8. I have exactly the same machine! Mine didn’t come with the manual and all the accessories unfortunately :s. As a very beginner, I only managed to thread the machine and sew straight and zig zag.

    How do you do other stitches?

    • Hi Michelle, you have to get your hands on some cams or “fashion discs”, they are the black plastic round things in my overall photo…I have seen a few on ebay & trademe, you just need to search for 328 cams or parts, the image on the cam shows you which stitch it does 🙂

  9. I’d love to have some beautiful old machines but we are very short on space! Having said that we’ve been given two very non-beautiful 60s or 70s machines for my mechanic partner to play with, as he expressed an interest in seeing how they work. I’ll enjoy watching other people’s collections grow though!

  10. Oh dear, a slippery slope of vintage/ elderly machines, that I have started sliding down in the past six months :-D. Grasshoppers seem quite common on TradeMe so should be an easy scratch to itch. So exciting when you get a bargain that works. I have discovered a love of playing with the mechanics.

    • I am loving the mechanics too. I haven’t seen a grasshopper come up lately but I am watching like a hawk. I have another new one to pick up this weekend, hopefully it is as good of a story as The Tractor was 😉

  11. Great post! Loved reading about and listening to The Tractor – boy, what a noise! It must be a strong machine!

  12. Hey! Happy New Year… I love that you managed to get a) such a bargain, and b) got her to work (no more “tension” from the bobbin “tension” 😉 !)… it’s soooo satisfying when that happens 🙂

    P.S. If it’s okay to mention it here in my comment please (I’m trying to share the sewing-goodies lurve globally -yay!)?… I’m holding a Giveaway (2 bundles of sewing goodness) over on my blog – open to folks everywhere, so no international postal restrictions LOL!

  13. I learnt to sew on my mum’s old singer which looks similar to your new old one with cams and such. It has a bullet shaped bobbin case which is kinda cool. Anyway, she also has a hand crank singer which she still uses. Nostalgia is great but add to that working sewing-ness then bingo.

  14. That looks like an excellent score, especially since it didn’t require too much faffing to get it working beautifully. I’ve recently acquired another (couple) that I’m fiddling with at the moment – may need to add to the Fabric Hoarders US order if you haven’t put it through yet.

    • Haha, another = more than one! Did you get the grasshopper you told me about? I so want one of those! Let me have the next one that pops up ok 😉

      I ordered a a new belt for the 201 from Sew-Classic, was only about NZD$10 with postage, the lady was really helpful, looking forward to it arriving.

      Will be looking to place the Gone Sewing order on the 7th, probably, so that it turns up when I am back at work after the 14th, so plenty of time, I’ll give everyone a reminder this weekend I think. My list keeps getting longer!

  15. One of my old machines, bought for its looks, only does a straight stitch, but oh boy, what a stitch it is. $5 at the local tip recycling depot.
    Another from the side of the road didn’t work at all, so I downloaded instructions, got out the tool kit and torch, and was about to dismantle it when I noticed the needle was in backwards. it’s another beauty.
    Old machines are so much fun!

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